New Poll: Throw the Garbage Out

The writing is on the wall – and the monuments, memorials, and trail markers:  “Throw the bums out!”

That is the news from a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.  Sixty percent of Americans say that if they had the chance to vote to defeat and replace every single member of Congress, including their own representative, they would.  Only 35 percent said they would not.

According to the poll, the shutdown has been a political disaster.  One in three say the shutdown has directly impacted their lives, and 65 percent say the shutdown is doing harm to the economy, NBC’s Chuck Todd reports.

The WSJ and NBC New report, the 60 percent figure is the highest-ever in that question recorded in the poll, registered in the wake of the government shutdown and threat of the U.S. defaulting on its debt for the first time in history. If the nation’s debt limit is not increased one week from now, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew warns that the entire global economy could be in peril.

Perhaps that’s why Emperor Obama magnanimously reopened the National Parks and the National Mall.  Glenn Beck and his followers will be at the National Mall in Washington, D.C., tomorrow, Oct. 12 beginning at 10 a.m. to clean up the Mall after the pro-Illegal Alien rally attendees left all their garbage behind.  He has the permit and says just bring garbage bags and gloves.  No political signs.  When you’re with Glenn Beck, you really don’t need a sign, anyway.

“The numbers reflect a broader trend over the last few years. Americans have traditionally said that while they might not like Congress, they usually like their own representatives. But that sentiment appears to have shifted.

“The throw-them-all-out attitude has slowly taken hold over the last three years, coinciding with two things – the rise of the Tea Party caucus in the House and the debt ceiling fight of 2011.

“In October 2010, a majority of Americans – 50 percent to 47 percent – said they would not fire all congressional members. But by August 2011, 54 percent said they would toss every lawmaker from office; in January 2012, 56 percent said that; and just three months ago, in July, it was 57 percent.

“Frustration was evident among poll respondents across the ideological spectrum.

“The number of Americans who say they want to fire everyone is fairly consistent among most groups – at around 60 percent – but it spikes among rural voters (70 percent), white independents (70 percent) and those in Republican-held congressional districts (67 percent). Just 52 percent of respondents in Democratic-held districts would vote to fire every lawmaker on Capitol Hill.

“In another sign of dissatisfaction with the state of politics, 47 percent of Americans said they do not strongly identify with either party.  The numbers in this poll also reflect a broader anger and pessimism among Americans, especially when it comes to the economy.

“A record-low 14 percent think the country is headed in the right direction, down from 30 percent last month. That’s the biggest single-month drop in the poll since the shutdown of 1990. And a whopping 78 percent think the country is on the wrong track. Just 17 percent think the economy will improve in the next year, while 42 percent think it will worsen.

“Americans’ confidence in the economy has nose-dived, they say, because of Obama and Congressional Republicans’ negotiations – or lack thereof – on the budget. Almost two in three – 63 percent – say it makes them less confident that the economy will get better.

“Democratic pollster Fred Yang, who helped conduct the poll with Hart, added that Americans are paying attention to this fight and want it resolved before the debt ceiling deadline of Oct. 17.

“This isn’t the calm before the storm,” Yang said. “This is the storm before the storm.”

In the job approval rating for Obama as president, his disapproval rating is at 48 percent.  This time last month, the number was at 50 percent.  Of course, his public relations team always presents the approval ratings to put a positive spin on his job measurement.  His approvals are currently at 47 percent, disapproval at 48 percent.  This time last month, the ratings were at 45/50 respectively.  In April 2009, he was at a high of 61/30; in November 2011, he was at a low of 44/51.  He’s getting close to hitting that 2011 low.  Pictures of armed U.S. Park Police threatening innocent tourists and bullying elderly men in wheelchairs at the World War II Memorial will not help his ratings.

As for the political parties, given a name recognition test for positive or negative attitudes, for the period of Oct. 7-9, 2013, the GOP got a Very Positive rating of 7 (they were even lower in December 2009, with a rating of 5); Somewhat Positive, 17; Neutral, 21; Somewhat Negative, 24; and Very Negative 29.

Obama’s name still remains in the plus column:  Very Positive, 26; Somewhat Positive 21; Neutral 11; Somewhat Negative, 11; and Very Negative, 30.  His lowest Positive was in January 2012:  22.  The poll goes by the month and we haven’t reached mid-October yet, but his positive numbers are trending down, while his negative numbers are increasing.  His current negative is 30.

The Democrats aren’t really faring much better than their GOP counterparts.  Taking into account the fact that this is a Democrat-sponsored poll and that they receive a big boost from the Media, in the same time period, the Dems numbers are:  Very Positive, 14; Somewhat Positive 25; Neutral, 18; Somewhat Negative 20; Very Negative 20.

They even polled for the Tea Party.  Very Positive, 9; Somewhat Positive 12; Neutral, 20; Somewhat Negative 13; Very Negative, 34.  Twelve percent said they weren’t sure, a number that has been growing, even as the Negatives have been climbing.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker John Boehner are equal in the Very Positive area:  5.  Reid gets five more Very Positive points (25) as opposed to Boehner’s 20.  But Reid has a significantly higher Not Sure rating of 34 against Boehner’s 21.






Barack Obama …………………………………………. 47 41 6

The Democratic Party ……………………………….. 39 40 -1

Ted Cruz …………………………………………………. 14 28 -14

Harry Reid ………………………………………………. 18 32 -14

John Boehner ………………………………………….. 17 42 -25

The Tea Party Movement ………………………….. 21 47 -26

The Republican Party ……………………………….. 24 53 -29

In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Republicans in Congress are doing?


9/13 12/11 7/11

Approve ………………………….. 24 26 25

Disapprove ……………………… 70 69 67

Not sure ………………………… 6 5 8

Q7 In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Democrats in Congress are doing?


9/13 12/11 7/11

Approve …………………………… 36 31 33

Disapprove ………………………. 59 62 60

Not sure ………………………… 5 7 7

Unfortunately, the majority of Americans are still under the delusion that a bigger government is a better government.  When asked by the pollsters which came closer to their point of view:

A. Government should do more to solve problems and help meet the needs of people,


B: Government is doing too many things better left to businesses and individuals.

Fifty-two percent Americans said the government should to more to solve problems and help meet the needs of the people.  That number had remained fairly consistent and pretty much divided up until this week.  This poll certainly underscores the public’s misunderstanding of the function of government and our certain drift towards a European-style Socialist, and eventually Communist, style of government.

The hatred of the TEA Party is being frothed up by the vitriol from the Democrats, the Media, and even Establishment/Moderate Republicans.  But then, the polled Americans also said that Obama was putting his political agenda ahead of the good of the country.  However, they put more of that blame (70 percent) on the House Republicans.

Still, 47 percent acknowledged that raising the controversial debt ceiling will allow the Federal government to go on spending us into debt, putting the nation into further economic danger.  43 percent also felt strongly that Obamacare was a bad idea.  Here the Hart Research pollsters played games with the questioning, asking those who felt not so strongly that it was a Good or Bad idea.  If you feel not so strongly that something is a Good idea, then you probably suspect it’s a Bad idea.  31+7 = 38 percent thinking it’s a good idea.  But if you switched those “Not So Strongly”,  you’d have 31+5 = 36 percent thinking it’s a good idea.  And instead of 38+5 = 43 thinking it’s a bad idea, you’d have 38 + 7 = 45, a number that much closer to a majority.  17% of respondents did not have an opinion.

The bad news is the bad idea number has gone down since June, when the number was at a high of 49 percent.  Perhaps people are just resigned to the fact now that we’re stuck with it.  50 percent opposed a Federal shutdown that would result in defunding Obamacare, opposed to 39 percent who would favor it.

At the bottom of the poll, 44 percent of respondents indicated that they had voted for Obama; 10 percent did not vote at all.  Given the political demographics of the poll, weighted towards Democrats, not surprisingly, 70 percent of respondents did not support the TEA Party.  Another 79 percent said they were not government workers or living with any, but chances are they belonged to one union or another (the poll did not ask the question).

Americans simply don’t take the time to consider the consequences of government dependency.  They don’t consider the fact that in an open market, health insurance would be cheaper for an individual.  You wouldn’t have to depend upon your employer for your health insurance, another than perhaps for catastrophic illness and hospitalization, which is really all most healthy people need.  They don’t understand that they’re going to receive the same intrusive, bureaucratic treatment from the government that they loathed in their private (company) insurance policies.

The government is going to measure every breath you take, every move you make.  That’s what the TEA Party has been trying to tell you since 2009.  However, we’re just average people, we TEA Partiers.  Debating with attractive talking heads who are lying through their beautifully polished teeth is difficult.  Who is the average person going to believe?  The nebbish who quotes all the facts correctly or the beautiful, young bobblehead interviewing the bureaucrat reciting numbers from a manufactured report, throwing in the proper communist/collective talking points at the appropriate point in the interview?

It’s the old story; they’re young, they’re beautiful, they’re well-educated (if you could call it education) so they must be right.  The TEA Party members, on the other hand, are nobodies.  Troublemakers.  Anarchists.  Anti-Government (darned right about that, at least regarding this one).  Terrorists.  Terrorists, they tell you, with an exclamation point!!  It’s a big, scary world out there.  America, you can’t handle any of this on your own.

The government must take care of you when you’re sick, when you’re retired.  The government must teach your children, take care of the poor, and protect you from religious incursions (except for the Muslims).  The government must take care of the land, water, and air.  They’re the only proper guardians of the Earth, or at least America’s part of it.  You’re taking up too much room in your suburban houses, with your lawns, gardens and golf courses, and the attendant pesticides and fertilizers that pollute the waters.  Why don’t you see how selfish you individuals are?

And the people fall for all this blather.  They really believe it.

The government doesn’t want the TEA Parties getting in the way of America’s suicide.  The Feds have Americans right where they want them:  depressed, angry, unemployed, and feeling guilty about everything.  Along comes the TEA Party telling them the government is their enemy, not their friend.  So the American people push them away with a snarl, right on cue, thanks to the Media constantly pushing the message the TEA Party is to blame (as though we drove the debt up to $17 trillion, mostly in entitlements).

That’s what suicidal people do – push away those earnestly trying to help them.

Too bad the poll didn’t ask if the respondents actually knew any members of the Tea Party.  There’s a poll that would show interesting results.  As for the Republicans, what does the poll really say about how people feel about them?  Since it’s weighted towards Democrats, is that all it’s really telling us?  That they disapprove of Republicans?  That’s hardly news.

Why do the rest of those polled disapprove, though?  Is it because they’re not trying harder to “get along”?  Or is it because they are, or were?  Suspicion lies with the former.  We’re dealing with a public that never graduate from high school, emotionally that is, or at best, college.  They’re still in that adolescent frame of mind, where they are part of what you would call a “collective.”  In high school and college, you have to dress the same, eat the same, dance to the same tunes, think along the same ideological lines.  As for the last, not only will you get flack from your comrades, but failing grades from your teachers and professors.  In school, it’s strictly go along to get along.

Today’s adults marry and form families at a later age.  Such delays prolong adolescence and retard independence.  The gap between leaving the childhood family and forming your own family, thus strengthening the ties between the past and present family, grows and is filled in by a prolonged adolescent conformity, a make-believe “independence.” These grown-up teenagers cling to their school ties, delaying real responsibility, and influencing each other’s ideology towards socialism.  They are dependent upon their social group, their school friends, and vote the way their friends do.  Peer pressure stays in force long after it should have been closeted with the pennant flag, the letterman sweater, and the high school or college yearbook.

Part of adult responsibility includes cleaning up after yourself.  No wonder the Lawn Mower Man went to mow the Lincoln Memorial Grounds.  You’d never find anyone under 40 (or union member) doing something like that.  Glenn Beck and his crew will be on the job tomorrow at the National Mall.  Young America will look on and see only older faces and graying heads and sneer.  A few Conservative families may be there.  But you can depend upon it that White House Minister of Propaganda  Jay Carney will be on television to assure young Americans that what they’re seeing is terrorism in action.

Read the full poll here (.pdf)

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